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and he goes on to beat Shane, Manny, Cotto & the beast that is Clottey.
say he does that..
will people still be hesitant to call him the greatest of all time?
i think right now...he's in the top 10...
if he beats the aforementioned boxers...top three..period.
Pacquiao is someone I would like to see Mayweather contest. Furthermore, I've been curious as to why that potential match up hasn't been spoken to. I'm not sure whether that consideration speaks to his legacy.
If he does then without a doubt although i dont like him i will say he is the best ever however i don't see him beating Marquez for some reason, cotto or Pacquiao... shane yeah but i don't know i feel flloyd is to bothered about business and Marquez is coming to smash his face in... Manny is too good for Mayweather at the moment so i dont see that fight happening... Cotto would probably win because flloyds had a year off but like i said i dont know matter of opinion... If he does go through them then i'll admit he is the best but as for now, its still Sugar Ray Robinson for me.
i pretty much disagree with your entire post lol..Quote:
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but like you said..it's opinion...
but the wins would speak for themselves..
Word. Him vs Manny would be the fight I wanna see most outta all the potential matchups.
Him beating Pacman would cement his legacy IMO.
I think right now him and Pacman are tyed at the #1 spot, IF Mayweather can beat Marquez, which I hope he doesn't, they should definitely put the Pacman fight together. I don't think Mayweather will be able to handle Manny's combination of speed and power...Mayweather has the same great combination, but I believe Manny's just a little faster and stronger than he is.
He won't beat Pacquiao
Word^
lmao you must be on crack if you think mayweather can beat Paqman, ain't no fucking way.
only 1 way to find out
Hey guys, I'm new to this forum. What's up to everybody.
There is indeed only one way to find out. Meanwhile there will be debates, claims, estimated guesses, and a lot of people talking out of their ass. Sadly, more of the latter will occur.
As far as my opinion and facts go, most people who hate or dislike Floyd Mayweather Jr. don't know shit about Boxing. While Manny Pacquiao may be a good fighter that seems to elevate his skill with each succeeding fight he still has a lot of chinks in his armor, particularly his defense. A weak defense is something which Mayweather feasts on. Mayweather has NEVER been knocked out, or even down, while Pacquiao has been KO'd in the past. Mayweather's current record is 39 - 0 with 25 KO. Pacquiao, while with an impressive 49 wins, has 3 losses and 2 draws. I don't care who he is, with THAT type of record, he's clearly not the best or "better".
As far as Juan Manuel Marquez goes, I think his age will come into factor. Mayweather is a couple years younger and although he's coming back to the ring after quite some time off he is still in his familiar (and successful), comfortable realm. Let's remember that Marquez is jumping up in WEIGHT, something he's never done before and is another important factor in this fight to keep in mind. Mayweather, although not moving in weight this time, has already won six world boxing championships in 5 different weight classes.
Those who expect or wish to see a brawl tomorrow, forget it. Mayweather is a technical boxer, not a street fighter. He may appreciate his fans but fuck if if he's going to allow to get hit in the face, if he has anything to do about it. He'll move around the ring, clinch if he has to, win throughout the rounds, and in the end he will emerge victorious.
I see Mayweather winning by split or unanimous decision, furthering his record to 40-0, and regaining his rightful pound-for-pound champion title once again.
Holy shit Max Kellerman posts here now?!? RB's on the come up.
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i agree with most of what you said..
therefore..i like you already meh'boy
you must not know shit about boxing if you think he can't..Quote:
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smh
I dont know why people are so hype to see PAC-Man against him.. I mean dont get me wrong, it'd be good to watch..
But.. Marques faced PAC-Man TWICE.. if you watched the fight, you can make an argument that he beat PAC-Man TWICE.. Even tho they were judged as a TIE, then the second fight a win to PAC..
I think Floyd will still win tonight, but it will be a good fight.. 12 rounds, no knockout
Mayweather has superb defense, PAC-Man has none.. it'd be a bit like the Zab Judah fight.. PAC might get some round, but OVERRALL, Flloyd has NO weakness, he does it all
Manny would be a faster and stronger Ricky Hatton..
but Strength only matters if you can hit him..
and Mayweathers defense is amazing..
he's allowed only 20% of hits to go through in his past five fights...
wtf@that?
niggas don't know..
I want to see Mayweather-Hatton. That is all.
Been there. Done that.Quote:
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Dont see why Mayweather has any reason to fight Hatton after beating him. And then after Pac destroyed him.
lmao mayweather vs hatton again?! Paq ko'd that fool in what 2nd round??.. and mayweather went 8 rounds with hatton, Epic fail. Paq can KO mayweather.
Your argument's weak. Mayweather didn't KO Hatton because that wasn't his strategy.His strategy was to tire him out and then go to work, which he executed perfectly. Go back and look at that fight and see all those hard punches Hatton took. Floyd could have KO'd him if he went all out but he chose to be on the defensive knowing Hatton would continue to go reckless.Quote:
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Believe it or not, I actually predicted Pacquiao knocking out Hatton in the first (I was close!). Reason why is because Pacquiao's offense obliterates Hatton's brawling and clinching habits. Considering that, BOTH of their defenses are still quite weak. So basically, Mayweather is better than Hatton and Pacquiao is also better than Hatton, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.
That was embarrassing on Marquez's part. Awesome fighter made to look like an amateur.
Gotta love Mayweather's character
"Ima do the talking because you talk too much"
he completely dominated the whole game......too fucking easy for him
and I love when Marquez would get a good lick off of him....and Mayweather would just smile back...
class of a fighter....
All the Mayweather nay sayers cause stfu now and respect the pound for pound best in the world....!
people still care about boxing?
wrong thread for that nonsense buddyQuote:
Originally Posted by Lay Doubt.
a boxing thread is the wrong thread to ask if people still care about boxing?
oh, i beg your pardon. :rolleyes:
We won't have any derogatory comments about boxing today sir.
meh, i appreciate the footwork, head movement, and overall technicality involved with boxing but the whole concept of 12 rounds of a tit-for-tat chess match is just excruciating to me. especially with the lighter weights.
I meant Mayweather-Pacman. Don't know why I said Hatton when I watched that fight.
now I hate mayweather but there is no denying that he is already in the top 10 boxers of all time.He reminds me of ali in ways, with the trash talk and the talent to back it up.He has been great for the sport and has proved himself to be one of the top names in boxing.
Now that he beat Marquez, people think he'll beat pacman and to be honest i just don't see that happening.Yes marquez and pac had a close fight, but pac has seriously moved on since them.His last fight against hatton saw him take it up a notch....the guy is a machine.
I see mayweather beating cotto and he will drive straight through shane mosely.At one stage or another we are going to see him fight pacquiao, and that will be one hell of a fight.But then again you just don't know with mayweather.He is so full of confidence and you can see that in the ring.You saw it against marquez.Mayweather just brings a certain presence with him inside that ring that makes him so hard to beat.
The closest I've seen to mayweather being in trouble was against hatton when he got stunned but other than that i am one of those people who thinks oscar de la hoya beat him.I'm a big fan of de la hoya and I don't think he ever recovered properly after that fight.He looked terrible against manny.
Yes right now mayweather would be in the top 10, we'll just have to see what he does in the future
I agree with most of what your saying and the guy you replied to is an idiot!!Quote:
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Every boxer has a different style.some styles are just easier to fight against depending on what style you face.You really don't know in boxing sometimes especially in the top 5 and when they havn't fought.All you can do is specualte and break it down
i'd rather watch Mosley And Mayweather..
Mayweather and Pacman would be boring to me, because i believe it would be a one sided fight for Mayweather...
ask me why and ill tell you but as for now..IMO...Pacman is a slightly stronger, and faster Hatton...as iv said before..and very unfocused...
think about it...actually THINK about the fight...and the different styles Floyd uses...while manny would be chasing him around the ring..
again..Floyd's defense record....look it up..
I know plenty about boxing but as you talk about mayweathers defensive and how good it is, look at how good pacs offensive is...its unbelievable and his speed like mayweather is amazing.Quote:
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I think ir would be one of the biggest match ups in a long long time and I don't think it would disappoint.Me...personally...I think pacman would win.And i have THOUGHT about that one hard
lol I'm an idiot cause I think mayweather can't beat Paqman.
*dead*
no you're an idiot for other reasons...that what you think just proves it....a person that manny had a hard time beating...floyd just wiped the floor with...and knocked him down in the second round...smh@people not knowing shit..
"oh but manny's gotten better since then!"..
so hasn't marquez?...
"but floyd was bigger then marquez!"
by four fucking pounds...lmao...four pounds is the difference between floyd eating before the fight and marquez not eating before the fight.
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i still think mayweathers slip away tactics would frustrate pacman...
mayweather knows he can't slug it out with him...so he would stick to the outside and box the shit out of manny...it would either end in a tie, OR depending how busy mayweather can get, he would be ahead on points...
look at this fight with marquez....any time marquez would try to set up a few combos, floyd would slip out.
AND i agree that pacman is a great fighter...but i still think that a floyd and shane fight would be better and more entertaining seeing as the two fighting styles they would use would actually compliment each other...
well shane as mayweather said is still in the training camp but no doubt if he was fit, then it would be a seriously good fight.I love watching him box and the two remind me of each other in ways.
I dunno buddy it just seems in my head, when i put it all together that pacman is the man to beat mayweather.He's improved a lot faster that marquez in my opinion, and even started a new rtraining program after the fights of marquez.Since then he's been boxing at his best
but who knows I may be wrong, we'll only know the answer when they fight
very true..it's all speculation until they fight..
and
how ever big of a cotto fan i am, i see manny dispatching him with points and a possible knock down in the later rounds..
But wouldn't tickets sell way more if it was Paq vs mayweather then may vs shane.
Yes and no, Yes because more people will want to see PAc vs Mayweather but then nobody would want to see MAyweather vs shane after he gets beat by Pac.Quote:
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