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Thread: Does street Cred outweigh real talent?

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    Does street Cred outweigh real talent?

    ^just wanted to know yall's opinion.
    Cuz there are sum cats that are real lyrical,but dont have any street cred.
    an you got cats that have street cred,but cant rap...but sell multi plat.
    why?

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    as tonedeff said..


    Hip hop is more about politics than music.

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    cus its al about favoritism and helping a brother out and very very much politics...if you make a dope song with nice multies and flourishing metas with crazy flow and dont got street cred at least a lil bit your nothing..
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    Quote Originally Posted by `Jammin' Jobus
    as tonedeff said..


    Hip hop is more about politics than music.
    true.Cuz ppl with actual skill get overlook'd..while others with a good background story get plenty of hype.An when u hear there cd/material..its wack.like Camron.

    Then they call intellectual rappers backpackers...

    ...its like rap turned into wrestling.all hype an no substance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega.
    cus its al about favoritism and helping a brother out and very very much politics...if you make a dope song with nice multies and flourishing metas with crazy flow and dont got street cred at least a lil bit your nothing..
    ^so true.But what makes taht unbelieve-able is Em.

    I would like to see Kool keith come back..or sumbody like Kool G rap that has street cred an still very lyrical.

    or a new guy that creates his own vibe an follow's no rules or guide lines.

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    take it like this for instance.

    put Game in a flow dissing him the whole CALI state is after your ass.
    now put up someone like lets say....hmm...gillie the kid or some underground talent rapper not heard of but getting his name known a little..no one would do shit for him...

    or its like

    diddy vs. bow wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega.
    take it like this for instance.

    put Game in a flow dissing him the whole CALI state is after your ass.
    now put up someone like lets say....hmm...gillie the kid or some underground talent rapper not heard of but getting his name known a little..no one would do shit for him...

    or its like

    diddy vs. bow wow
    lol.

    diddy vs bow wow...u mean ghost writer vs ghost writer.

    Sauce money vs J.d.lol.

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    nah nah more like

    J.D vs. uh... DJ Khalid.

    who gots more rep ya heard...if they did a show who would get more audiance?!...who do you think.

    nah cus diddy is well known and bow is like his name a PUP to diddy!
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    Life is about politics, not just hip hop

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    exactly if you dont get a crowd in your pocession then you aint shit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega.
    nah nah more like

    J.D vs. uh... DJ Khalid.

    who gots more rep ya heard...if they did a show who would get more audiance?!...who do you think.

    nah cus diddy is well known and bow is like his name a PUP to diddy!
    I would say J.D. cuz he is mr.mainstream right now.

    Dj Khalid is cool for his mixtapes..an his dj'n skills.But Big rankin would out do him.

    ever heard of young cash?lol.

    thats another example of street cred gettin more props than lyrics.
    he's a nobody an moves plenty of units underground.
    or plies...wack as rapper with a flow that mirrors Jeezy's ad-lib'ish style.

    now why hasnt the rapper Axe mad it yet..yah'know dude from fight club a while back that won 7 str8.hes a beast with it.

    or cassidy..when will he make str8 up gritty grimey shit instead of mainstream shit.

    ^damn I went completely off subject.


    but you got groups like Dip set(pssh) vs old wu-tang.(could it be it was all so simple then.)

    what changed?

    it use to be..you had to hve street cred plus skills on the mic.now its all hype an flash.

    ridin big rims,flexin ur ice grill..an sportin gawky chains/jewelry...ewww.

    rakim-thats why he's the greatest.
    Biggie-greatest
    Jay-flashy but lyrical..well atleast on reasonable doubt.
    andre 3000-southern lyricist.
    etc.etc...

    ^again randomly off subject but hell who cares.reply!

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    woot i feel you on that i mean you dont hear shit then all of a sudden a niga pops out

    like young dro and young joc..

    you heard about e-40 before he came out you heard of jeezey before they came out ya heard..i mean check it....Wayne was nothing back then...now look people know his shit and err thing why?!...cus he drove to his extent and fixed on up his mistakes and his uniq flow style i mean he aint the best be he is unique and thats talent right there...what happened to saigon and beanie seagal, the lunies. peopel like that had stret cred style and flow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega.
    woot i feel you on that i mean you dont hear shit then all of a sudden a niga pops out

    like young dro and young joc..

    you heard about e-40 before he came out you heard of jeezey before they came out ya heard..i mean check it....Wayne was nothing back then...now look people know his shit and err thing why?!...cus he drove to his extent and fixed on up his mistakes and his uniq flow style i mean he aint the best be he is unique and thats talent right there...what happened to saigon and beanie seagal, the lunies. peopel like that had stret cred style and flow
    saigon just needs to complete an album.
    beanie-too much trouble.
    lunies-well..broke up.
    Lil wayne-I would say he's the most unique one..cuz he works his boice an words his lyrics colorfully.

    now the next guy to be big is...Glasses malone from the west coast.street cred with witty lines.

    or u got folks like Serius jones.good battle rapper but shitty songs.
    I like Willy the Kid<---one of the best coming out.
    or Lupe fiasco...conceptual lyricist.yah heard american terrorist?

    killa mike-I like his flow an wording at times.

    ^all got street cred an very capable of being stars.

    really I guess it comes down to packaging urself an promo.

    but like my man Flav said"Dont believe the hype!"

    an Pap-"what the fuck that gotta do with the mic,I analyize everything that you write,you aint nice!"

    Yurp!Pz out my brother..

    an X-clan's motto-To the east my brother 2 the east.Sissy!

    ^Random.but cool.

    ha.

    thanx for the discussion.

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    willy?!...who the fuck willy is i know a gillie the kid but no willy..lol..

    saigon true i wanan see JR.Writer get out big...lil wayne true man he has theat ill unique flow see what im sayin..lol

    so to me it outweighs real suffistocated talent!
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    I think it takes street cred to get famous, and talent to keep fans

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