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    El-P vs Sole

    Wasn't aware that this had happened...

    Sole vs. El-Producto (El-P): Beef started in the late 90's when Sole thought he was being dissed subliminally on the track "End To End Burner" by El-P's group Company Flow, and released his own track, "Dear Elpee", which was a huge underground hit and was entirely devoted to attacking El-P, Company Flow, and all record/distribution companies involved. Company Flow returned the favor with "Linda Tripp", which included several snippets of a recorded phone conversation between Sole and El-P where Sole came across as afraid of El-P, stated that he "loved Company Flow", and wanted "to be down" with El-P and Co-Flow. While the track was received with almost equal popularity amongst underground hip-hop fans, there was a bit of a backlash due to El-P's usage of his phone conversation. The beef eventually died down as both artists moved on, but Sole, and to a lesser effect his Anticon label, are viewed as having their credibility damaged due to Sole's contradictory tone being played out on Co-Flow's "Linda Tripp".


    Linda Tripp (diss to Sole of Anticon) by El-P

    El-P: "Straight up if it wasn't for cats like me
    For real and I am not bullshittin
    If it wasn't for cats like me you wouldn't be in the rec
    in the door and I know that's true now knowwhatmsayin?
    Because now you're really in some of it"

    Sole: "Where's Len? I told Len that fuckin; I sai {slight pause}
    Quote, that I said, I love Company Flow
    I don't wanna be against you guys I-I-I quote
    quote, unquote I said, I wanna be down - you know;
    like I said I don't want beef with you guys
    YouknowIamlikedude; like fuckin
    this whole shit is bananas, y'know"

    El-P: "Like you're gonna make it by dissing me
    You know the record that got CoFlow scared, knowwhatmsayin??
    It's like DO I SOUND SCARED??"

    Sole: "No I don't think you sound very scared"

    Some cats know us but this one don't
    I oughta pierce this fuckin phallus through your rookie ass throat
    Yo Duke, don't step to me until you're ripened fruit
    I'm loopy from the invitations from funeral glue
    Stone poems dissolve combatants via shards through 56k high speed
    Still blitzed like relaxed I'll call geisha felatio deeds
    like fertilizer bombs packed in air tower compartment docks
    Sticky fuck revolution shot - send all complaints to Rupert Murdoch
    I'll black out in the mug of suburbanites with little stinger's crew
    You volunteer for the draft stupid--thats on you!
    On some upper middle class romantic notion
    So the mortar scraps'll fly cry gates section 8 escape like Klinger do
    The demented happy face bruised back for pussycrew packin
    Rockin clam diggers with cut knees in Hepatitis puddles - no vaccine
    Plus 99% are down but you still give respect for
    Silently questionin your direction - like Amistad passenger section
    Gilbert Grape against Magneto odds;
    Ultimate Break 5 versus your needle pops;
    Davey Jones versus Goliath;
    I'm Ed Sullivan Beatles crowd response
    I slowed it down - try to download this gig to formatted floppy disk
    while heads bop like epileptics sucking my dick to some off-beat shit
    Sole: "I l-l-l-l-l-l-love Company Flow"
    ::scratch:: "y-y-you faggot"
    This spoiled brat little young saga got a mommy bought my sampler tapes
    (Sole: "I wanna be down")
    Make sure every one sheet snippet tape flyer sticker and t-shirt
    got a representation of my name and face
    I rock beats that Tina Yothers morning sickness without makeup ugly dusty
    Fucked up four track dirty ass crack pirate radio readiness
    Okay fella; I own my masters, lyrics, merchandise
    mic, turntables, style psychosis pain and penis
    Deranged cadence kills syllable UV needles
    Makin gangsters in the crowd throw bottles at my people
    We dip on life cycles few data crisp since
    custom Jeep Dapper Dan era in 3 fat goose
    swingin discs of Tron to disembowel your village elder
    Fuckin sick isn't it?
    Bucket my piss while you're at it kiss the dog dick
    Try to act monstrous but just a Beanie Baby after my profit
    That don't do much for hip hop - that isn't respect it's cockfondlin
    In eighty-nine we called it tip-doggin; but you ain't know that rookie
    Don't ever try to front like you know me or my people
    By the way Vordul did I bite?
    Vordul: "yea right!!--thats fantasy lie snake trife"
    Sole: "like fuckin - this whole shit is bananas"
    You little lying muthafucka you know you kiss my ass
    and then you try to ::scratch:: "change up the past"
    Who fell into their own hari kari kit when they lied to themselves
    Self abuse by selling lies self destructive
    I am Captain Kirk, Spock and Lieutenant Uhura on the away team
    You're Henson Lebowitz - the sacrificial lamb for the episode
    You beamed to the wrong planet this time
    with a hot pink phaser and one line
    before getting morphed to faggot dust for not knowing our status
    Automatic and absolutely the poisonous shit-licking one cyber reject
    New England rich boy soon to catch a Bay Area eject
    Marionette pussy non-veteran
    I got more friends than you where you live
    (Menopause/ Men all pause) when I stop that flow of estrogen
    You wanna be on the cutting edge--sliced up
    Emotions knifed--life sucks
    feeling dejected when frustration is misdirected in official election
    Conjections on top of blaming misinformation textures
    So inane--I cause colon blow pain
    You have an obsession respect it
    From now on you're immortalized playin yourself on my record
    Congratu-fuckin-lations; isn't that what you wanted-- IDIOT!!
    There's more than a little difference between yours and mines existence
    This is my ride; and you're not commandeering it
    The only thing advanced about your music
    is that you need a computer to hear it
    This year you're independent,
    last year you was on some keep it real shit, right?
    The last year before that you discovered hip-hop
    and you immediately became an internet genius
    Facetious pseudo-intellectualism can't contest wisdom
    I feel like Selena; the president of my fan club trying to kill me
    And you'se a bad ass?
    Let's take a Linda Trip file since you wanted to play the game filthy
    Bad enough that you lied about me;
    front like this isn't your voice
    I'll be forced to release the microcassette in it's entirety

    Sole: "I mean, fuckin Len knows, I mean.. y'know I like your shit
    You know it's not really like that y'know"

    El-P: "I don't know that you like my shit
    I haven't even heard your record
    I have no idea what you think about me"

    Sole: "I-I-I-I-I love Company Flow--I love Company Flow
    I don't wanna be against you guys--I don't wanna be against you guys
    I wanna be down--I-I-I-I-I wanna be down--I-I-I-I-I wanna be down
    :: "I love Company Flow" -- [Sole's voice stretched and echoed
    so it sounds like he's sputtering and stuttering]:::

    This is one of those precious moments of ferocious paybacks
    Closest to the perfect scenario you made a move but it backfired
    Magnified by the fact that you tried to project a persona
    of confrontation by subverting a crew who in fact you idolized
    Next time your delusions of groupie lust and battle fame
    Isolated website hip-hop coast Tiger Beat subscription addiction
    Malignancy career impotency lies high school gossip power move
    will simply get you beat the fuck up, liar
    Spell my goddamn name right next time pussy
    Feel the beauty of futulity served with arsenic cookies
    and old lace, you tried to save facial; yo fuck that I fold space
    You musta thought you was Canibus trying to eat my ass
    How does the hole taste Timmy?
    You don't even deserve this moment--do you?
    You haven't paid enough dues to get a battle--pupil!
    Run along and do your little interviews with your fantasy life distortion
    Next time you reveal your true self
    make sure that no one records it, stupid

    Sole: "To be totally honest with you--I think your being cool, y'know
    Like; I mean, taking in consideration everything--y'know"

    El-P: "Yaknahmsayin my plan was especially to ignore you, but like,
    now it's gettin very difficult to do that because you're makin too..
    you're makin too big a deal, out of what you perceive as a diss to you;
    when in reality like, I don't think you're completely
    positive that you're totally correct on this one"

    Sole: "Uh, I don't feel very correct right now; at this point
    That's why I don't really have anything to say because it's like
    well fuck, you know I made I made my El-P diss record already y'know?"

    ::scratching:::
    damn thats a sucka---faggot----Get played, out of position
    ---true feelings---m-m-murder a rookie----
    suck the dick kid and eat the dick cookie----
    e-e-e-at the dick cookie

    Dear Elpee(diss to El-P of Def Jux) by Sole

    [Sole]
    Dear El-Pee,
    How's your summer been?
    Mine's been fine
    I heard you had a real good time at camp
    Oh, yeah, I talked to Len, he said everythings cool
    Oh, yo, I really liked "End To End Burner"
    That little diss me thing on the internet was pretty funny
    Yeah it's live sucker
    Uh, yeah, and I was talking, ya know,
    trying to sell my records to distributors
    And they wouldn't take it because, you know
    Some fat white kid figured it'd be funny to blackball
    Well, you know, I wrote a little poem about it
    and I really hope you like it
    So have your mother read it to you
    and if you guys like it you can write me back

    I'm a Anticon iconoclast catalyst for cataclysm
    Tell Fox dissing Sole, bad executive decision
    Your egosystem's frail, with a spoon I could dissect it
    Soundin' like Corky got his nubs on a websters dictionary
    A Ras Kass record and a brand new MPC
    Pressing all them pretty buttons making wack beats
    To hell with phat beats I'd rather rock acapella
    I'd rather be broke and have a whole'lotta resent
    Not a rich king, a pawn, a pegan for me to pee on
    Check out 9th street, a big sign, El-Pee got served in neon
    Trendy indie underground 'cause you haven't got a choice
    Take away your elitist buddies and you haven't got a voice
    No five thousand for radio, no hundred thou for adds and banners
    No paying record stores for all your Rawkus propaganda
    Well-timed marketing scheme, its cool to be independent
    But if it was last year you'd be a dun or a Missy Elliot
    And after your indie bravado and the label has recouped
    You're broker than when Libra left you crying for a record deal from Luke
    I strike you awestruck you femanine to blackball
    I'll be serving you 'till you're serving me ice cream in a mall
    Some fool said this is an underground Canibus and LL
    Well that's comedy, 'cause I'll serve all three of y'all
    Heard Rupert had to starve all the indie artists to feed your ego
    Running around the Bay looking for Sole with your foot in your mouth
    I heard you like the Bay (castro) but think four tracks are wack
    Lost in the ozone and all your mixdowns sound like crap
    Hiding lack of intellect behind hipster catch phrase and babble
    Indellibles'll never get a full-length 'cause you don't wanna be outshined
    Fine, I heard you wanna kill me and get fools after me
    The only violence you ever witnessed was on Menace ll Society
    Try to sound deep and got masses fooled by your lack of rhythm
    I elevate while you perpetuate your malopropism

    [Sole mimmicking El-P]
    Yo, wha, what did he just call me dun?
    Yo, I don't know man
    Yo, I, I don't know what he just called you man
    Well, yo, go get the books, go get the Bible
    Yo, man, well apparently you must have ripped all the pages out in the dictionary
    man, 'cause you've used all the words
    So I'm never gonna find out what he called me?
    He's usin' big words against me?
    Yo, this is intrepid god

    I'm a hip hop artist, you style biting emcee sucker
    Had a crayon contest with retarted kids and picked the wackest album cover
    Picked the wrong emcee to diss subliminally, every line dissected
    Yeah, I diss you on the internet, to your face and on record
    For the record, I know the muck from which out you have stepped
    First you sound like Beatnuts, then you're mr. 4,000 syllables
    One bar, out of breath on stage a failure
    Gotta quit rockin' mics and start rockin' an asthma inhaler
    El-Producto, independent as Fox
    Since when do indie records show up in a W-E-A box?
    By saying your independent, you belittle the whole movement
    Real emcee's work hard, ain't got investors to put out their music
    Underground conspiracy, but this ain't used by No Limit
    Mad 'cause you didn't blow up, the victim of your own wack gimmick
    But some fools bought into it 'cause they don't know no better
    That you're a hamburger pimp, only out for the cheddar
    Yo, what's a battle emcee that can't freestyle?
    All those references to imaginary emcee's, come battle me
    Remember in Boston, you starting calling fools out?
    And when emcee's tried to battle, you were the first to break out
    Well, you surely don't wanna battle, of course you wanna fight, you're bigger
    Fine, you win, we can have a contest to see who's the biggest wigger
    Oh, you win again, it must feel great, I heard you don't like white emcee's
    Traded in your Kani and X hats for a fresh set of Echo's and Adidas
    You as hip hop as Garth Brooks and as manly as gartar belts
    And if you're so creative, talk about something other than yourself
    No, I'm not dissing New York or any of your comrades in arms
    I'm tearing down that posterboy Miss Piggy-lookin' leprachaun
    El-Pee vs. The Spice Girls (I got 5 on scary spice)
    But both of y'all are in desperate need of backup singers when it's live
    And I know they think you're original but follow me through this portal
    You bit your whole styles from an underground emcee named Vordul
    Spread rumors about me to everyone you meet, evade being a man
    I heard you're putting out an instrumental album of sitars, pots and pans
    You've done enough talking, so I know you ain't fading Sole
    Have your boy Rupert Murdock fly you out, I'll serve you on the Wake Up Show
    The red-headed kingpin, step child to a little herpe sore festering
    Heard you only pull females when you tell'em you're a lesbian
    Wanna sign autographs, but all your fans are rappers
    The evolution will not be televised, as your #1 fan becomes your master
    I'd love to give you a hand but all I got is a middle finger
    Farakhan won't squash this, so we can finish it on Jerry Springer
    Newsweek martyr, bring your rhetoric retort
    You outta tootsie roll under your rock, your two minutes of fame got cut short
    FYI: starving artists don't have corporate luncheons
    Got a horrible freestyle and the rest of your style is (studio punch-ins)
    The dun-crusher busts fresh overly when I blast'em
    And those so-called freestyles, they all popped up on your album
    Manipulate your connects so they wanna see me on a curb
    But I guarantee you lyin' 'cause you know 1-on 1 you'd get served
    Now it's time to pay dues like when Daddy Warbucks
    Bought your face onto the cover of the last Stress
    We gonna battle, so write your rhymes ahead of time
    And I'll still come twice as fresh
    And keep it all in the family, like Rose, I'll take a back seat
    Keep my name out your mouths like my wax from the racks of (phat beats)
    Fat ego's inflated, hope you liked my little poem
    And hope to hear from you soon, signed, your friend, Sole
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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    el-p is sic

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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    This should discredit Sole as "nerd-rap"
    Clearly El-pee is on some geek shit, with references to Tron and lines like
    "Stone poems dissolve combatants via shards through 56k high speed"
    Lmao, probably took him a day to come up with that. I've never felt El-pee's work, besides the occaisonal beat. Using a phone convo is a chump move too.
    Sole took the bigger out by trying to squash it, and his track was much more understandable then El-pee's wanna be abstract random adjective lists.

    Good find Atticus, finally a legitimate diss/beef scenario.
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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    If anyone has samples of these clips, drop them. I'm curious to hear both of these tracks.
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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    I've actually heard Sole's diss and the shit is horrible musically.

    Never heard El-P's response. El-P's has some clever lines like the menopause line, and some pretty hard hitting, yet cheap shots, about Sole being a rich suburbanite. But some other totally random irrelevant bullshit as well, and some gay bullshit about Star Trek.

    I'm guessing El-P's wouldn't be that much better sounding. I agree with Mindless about him pretty much; I only like the odd beat of his. So I'll call this a tie. Both of them should stick to making experimental wierdo music.
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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    That's why I was surpised when I came across this; because they are, experimental, poetic type emcee's to a certain extent. Seemed alittle below them to start throwing disses around.
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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    The whole phone convo basically won that battle....wasn't really a track that gave me a laugh though, neither was Dear Elpee. Linda Tripp was like a cult track when it was released, i'm surprised no-one talks about it anymore. And yeh Dan you're right about the quality, I mean it's polished and and stuff, but the beat is horrible and easily forgettable, and the whole "I wanna be down" scratching part is constantly annoying. Was a little cheap of El...oh well he never learnt from his horrible diss track making abilities and Esoteric showed him a thing or two. lol.

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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    ^ Esoteric merked those fools.

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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    dont like either of em
    murder murder

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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    I love Sole, but I can't really imagine him putting out a decent diss track
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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    Quote Originally Posted by Atticus
    Wasn't aware that this had happened...

    Some cats know us but this one don't
    I oughta pierce this fuckin phallus through your rookie ass throat
    Yo Duke, don't step to me until you're ripened fruit
    I'm loopy from the invitations from funeral glue

    You beamed to the wrong planet this time
    with a hot pink phaser and one line
    before getting morphed to faggot dust for not knowing our status
    Automatic and absolutely the poisonous shit-licking one cyber reject
    New England rich boy soon to catch a Bay Area eject
    that shit is classic,

    its totally a joke when you hear Soles voice on the phone. ElP didnt even need to make this diss track, he could have just looped the phone convo on a instrumental and still made his point.

    but if you want to get into subject content, ElP destroys him on sheer validity of statements.

    Sole attacks ElPs production, which is stupid because El Ps breaks are the cut.
    Sole attacks ElPs style as being copped from vordul, which is a joke.

    ElP only attacks Sole for being a fake bitch, which is legit.

    ElP also destroys Sole on name referencing, which personally Im not a fan off, but when Sole trys to name reference back i have to take it into consideration.

    ElP:
    Silently questionin your direction - like Amistad passenger section
    Gilbert Grape against Magneto odds
    Davey Jones versus Goliath;
    I'm Ed Sullivan Beatles crowd response
    I rock beats that Tina Yothers morning sickness
    I am Captain Kirk, Spock and Lieutenant Uhura on the away team, You're Henson Lebowitz - the sacrificial lamb for the episode
    I feel like Selena; the president of my fan club trying to kill me

    all those references are pretty fucking witty.

    lets hear sole's:
    But if it was last year you'd be a dun or a Missy Elliot
    The only violence you ever witnessed was on Menace ll Society
    You as hip hop as Garth Brooks and as manly as gartar belts
    I'm tearing down that posterboy MissPiggy lookin' leprachaun
    El-Pee vs. The Spice Girls (I got 5 on scary spice)
    Farakhan won't squash this, so we can finish it on Jerry Springer

    all of those references are pretty fucking stupid...

    finally ElP wins on style because Sole's track sounds like shit, and although unpolished, Els diss tracks always have that unique punch to them.

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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    Quote Originally Posted by Oneness
    sole and e-lp two of the shittiest mcs on earth
    if only they would have just e-jockied eleven thousand posts on some web site talking about jayz and nas... wow that would have been way doper.

    fucking loser internet kids making blanket shots with zero punch.

    thats for letting us know your to stupid to form intelligible opinions.
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    thats for letting us know your to stupid to form intelligible opinions.
    LOL...Well it isssssss Mike.

    Luh ya really Michael haha Where you been at anyway?

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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    Wow id say both were tight... i cant decide whos betta/
    dam....

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    Re: El-P vs Sole

    mike quit coming into these threads looking for the exact same type of beef with the exact same type of people. i see you doing it in every thread.




    el-p murdered sole.
    than vast beheaded esoteric.

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